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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:36 pm
by mike99
cwachs wrote:Back to Cambium subscriber modules...

The new Force 180 and Force 200 SMs are 1000BT devices. Is anyone powering these from a Netonix? Do we still need to swap pins with these newer gigabit radios or will they work with a standard cable on 24v power?

From Cambium specs sheet:
Froce 180: Ethernet Interfaced10/100/1000BaseT, Compatible with Cambium PoE pinouts (V+ = 7 & 8, Return = 4 & 5) and Standard PoE pinouts (V+ = 4 & 5, Return = 7 & 8) Input Voltage10 to 30 V
Froce 200: Ethernet Interfaced10/100/1000 BaseT, Compatible with Cambium PoE & Standard PoE pinouts Input Voltage10 to 30 V

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:29 pm
by gripper
As of last night, I have three b/g Wavion sectors (WBS-2400-Sect) running fine on 24V, pulling 12-16w each. Looks like plenty of headroom, without going to 48VH.

Also, have Ceragon IP-20C running fine on 48VH, pulling about 39w at an idle.

Also, a Radwin 5000-HPMP (RW-5100-8225) running fine on 48V, pulling 16-17w at an idle.

All radios running normal pinout straight-through cables.

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:15 am
by kolorasta
Has anyone tested ligowave rapidfire? can it be powered by wispswitch?

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sirhc wrote:
YES you can power this with 48V POE option.
In the Data Sheet it shows that it is 802.3af/at so our normal 48V POE option is fine. Do you guys not look at Data Sheets?
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Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:10 pm
by sirhc
kolorasta wrote:Has anyone tested ligowave rapidfire? can it be powered by wispswitch?


Well this is discussed in this post at the bottom: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178&p=8809#p8809

Question: Can I power this device with Netonix.

Answer:
Our switches are "passive" POE which means if POE is enabled on a port the power is live so if you plug in a cable that is shorted or the piece of equipment is bad or has an incompatible polarity PIN OUT you will damage the port in the switch and probably the equipment, this damage is not covered under warranty.

There are 4 Pairs and 8 PINs in an Ethernet Cable:
Pair 1: White Orange.(PIN 1 ) & Orange.(PIN 2) is POSITIVE
Pair 2: White Green...(PIN 3) & Green...(PIN 6) is NEGATIVE
Pair 3: White Blue.....(PIN 4) & Blue.....(PIN 5) is POSITIVE
Pair 4: White Brown..(PIN 7) & Brown...(PIN 8) is NEGATIVE

24V POE Option @ .75A:
Pair 3 / PINs 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE

48V POE Option @.75A:
Pair 3 / PINs 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE

24VH POE Option @1.5A:
Pair 1 & 3 / PINs 1, 2, 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE

48VH POE Option @1.5A:
Pair 1 & 3 / PINs 1, 2, 4, 5 are POSITIVE
Pair 2 & 4 / PINs 3, 6, 7, 8 are NEGATIVE

So now that you know what the PIN OUT is (which is in our Spec Sheet as well on page 17 and in the product description on our web store) all you need to do is look at the spec sheet from you device and see which POE option you can use.

If they do not specify the PIN OUT polarity break out a multi-meter and cut one end off of a patch cable and strip the wires and figure it out on your own.

Also if they have a bridge rectifier circuit like MIMOSA the device will swap the polarity the way it wants it.

WARNING - If your equipment is not specifically designed to accept power on all 4 Pairs do NOT use a VH POE option.

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:47 pm
by support@wavspeed.com
So...just to be sure, the Cambium ePMP 1000 with GPS Sync works with 48V...right? Or are they only 30v and will get fried???

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:18 am
by sirhc
support@wavspeed.com wrote:So...just to be sure, the Cambium ePMP 1000 with GPS Sync works with 48V...right? Or are they only 30v and will get fried???


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1215#p9358
"Some" Cambium ePMP runs great at 48V.
tcknudson wrote:Newer versions only support 30 volts and it will fry them, check sticker under cover!
I was going thru a stack and then fried the newest radio.

mike99 wrote:Only NonGPS radios are 30V max. GPS radio support both cambium and standard pinout and work fine at 48V (those are 802.3af compatible).


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1690&p=14660&hilit=ePMP#p14660
ePMP
1000 AP (non-GPS) (24v)


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1215&p=11213&hilit=ePMP#p11213

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:19 pm
by tcknudson
450i ap no crossover.JPG
Cambium 450i and ePMP 2000 both work on 48v with no crossover.
Notice (not regular 450 or regular ePMP 1000) !!!!!

They use identical power supplies.

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:20 pm
by rgunderson
How about a Rocket 5AC Lite?

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:19 am
by sirhc
rgunderson wrote:How about a Rocket 5AC Lite?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178
24VH supplies power on all 4 pair which is needed for long cable runs (over 200 feet) on airFIBER X units but will damage normal 24V Rockets, Nanostations, and similar devices.


ALL airMAX radios use 24V not 24VH which will destroy them, the ONLY exception is the Rocket M5 Titanium which uses 48V not 48VH which will destroy it.

Re: LIST OF POEDEVICES THAT DO AN DO NOT WORK WITH WISP SWIT

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:08 pm
by rgunderson
Thanks! My confusion is from the fact that the Rocket AC unit requires power on all 4 pair.

sirhc wrote: INCORRECT STATEMENT, DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS, READ ON FOR CORRECT INFORMATION BECAUSE IF YOU STOP HERE AND TRY 24VH YOU WILL FRY YOUR RADIO AND SWITCH