500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

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500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:42 am

Have a 500' run total distance from house to CPE for a new client. CPE will be on 40' antenna tower out in a pasture.

What are you guys using to cable & provide power in a situation like this?

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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:08 am

I use a WS-6-MINI midspan powered by PoE.

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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:12 am

Thanks. Midspan would be in the middle of a horse riding area so an electronics box there is a no go. Thinking fiber/separate power may be the only way.

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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:32 am

Just got off the phone with the client. Turns out they will be installing a fence for the riding arena about midspan.

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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:00 pm

In that case that could be a good place for a MINI. Might want to consider a future use for cameras or outdoor WiFi there as well.

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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:04 pm

I have a few mini's in stock too. If the midspanMini is at about 300', do you think a UBNT 48v AF POE provide enough power from the house side?

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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:14 pm

If your trying to save money you could try this:

Use GOOD CAT6 direct burial cable as I have gotten 500' 10/100 connection at 500'

I would first spool off 500' and test before I went and buried it.

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Fiber and DC power and EdgePOINT 6
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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:25 pm

rkelly1 wrote:I have a few mini's in stock too. If the midspanMini is at about 300', do you think a UBNT 48v AF POE provide enough power from the house side?

Mine is powered by a WS-24 and the AF PoE is actually 50V which is the same as what the Netonix puts out. I only see excessive voltage drop when the heaters kick in on the cams. It is just cosmetic (log entries) but if it bothered me enough I would power it with the 54V Ubiquiti PoE to compensate for the drop. The 24V side is not affected.

Probably you would never draw that much current.

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Re: 500' House to CPE / Best cabling?

Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:28 pm

We do stuff like this often enough. you can get 100Mbps on 500' of CAT5e pretty easily. Usually run 2 lines and dedicate 1 to power. Then I get these inexpensive 24v power supplies that can be tweaked up to about 27v which can account for some cable loss without overpowering the radio.

With a dedicated CAT5e for power, you'll be over 20v on the radio, if you just run it on the blue/brown pairs you'll be closer to 16v *but* the radio will fluctuate in draw enough that the volts will jump around a bit. Anything over 400' I'd typically run a landscape lighting wire, 16/2 is fine for a single radio.

I've got a 800' run on a fence and I'm using 14/2 and have a midspan mikrotik switch (260GS) that is pulling power off that 14/2. Get a full gig on both legs.

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