Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:42 pm

ste wrote:The pricing is not far from SAF Integra. This is a FDX radio with <1ms latency. Works great and very reliable.


I do like SAF gear, one of the most reliable radios I have ever used and built like a tank but are you sure the price is even close?

MIMOSA radio MSRP $1999 average Distributor price $1750-$1850 (per radio)

Antennas costs range from $350 to $1000 each

SAF Integra costs?
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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:09 pm

sirhc wrote:
ste wrote:The pricing is not far from SAF Integra. This is a FDX radio with <1ms latency. Works great and very reliable.


I do like SAF gear, one of the most reliable radios I have ever used and built like a tank but are you sure the price is even close?

MIMOSA radio MSRP $1999 average Distributor price $1750-$1850 (per radio)

Antennas costs range from $350 to $1000 each

SAF Integra costs?


Not far above. Ask a good distributor for a good price. They go 2048QAM soon. You might get discount on the older lumina if <400M FDX is enough.

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:01 pm

ste wrote:This is a FDX radio with <1ms latency.


Is that under full load ?

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:04 pm

jjonsson wrote:
ste wrote:This is a FDX radio with <1ms latency.


Is that under full load ?


Yes SAF radios are less than 1ms until you saturate the link meaning FULL
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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:59 am

I'm interested in the B11 also.
I don't like that you need two 80Mhz channels to make it sing though.
I also will miss the sub 1ms ping times of true licensed gear.

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:31 pm

adairw, Mimosa claims <1ms round trip...

It looks to be about 8b/hz. not quite typical AF specs, but right in line with an AFX. Nice clean spectrum means a much higher chance of hitting the higher rates too.

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:51 pm

The phys is the same as B5, same bandwith lengh (80 mhz is odd for a licenced radio), same modulation, same output power for 4 streams, same sensivity, same same security spec, same QoS that seem to be WMM, etc. The only radio spec that change between the two is the latency < 1ms.

I must say I'm really sceptical about this radio. I never saw a relly good upconverted or downconverted radio. It's help avoid noise but not like a true carrier class radio.

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:27 am

rebelwireless wrote:adairw, Mimosa claims <1ms round trip...


They say... The 1.3 beta we are running on a B5 link is supposed to be 1-2ms. It's not.

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:36 am

A pure PTP device running TDM only can be significantly lower latency than a TDMA device that happens to be in PTP mode. Anyone here ever run Mikrotik's NStreme? It reduced guard interval and stripped out much of the 'multi access' parts of the wireless stack. When you weren't burdened with a ton of bugs it typically provided 1/2 the latency as their TDMA nv2. I had a couple links that were reliably under 2ms on cheap atheros radios despite mikrotik's typical poor fit-n-finish.

we should see these in the field and with NDA's lifted pretty soon I think. Then we will know.


Adaire, a friend at a neighboring wISP has b5c that are hitting that 2ms nicely.

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Re: Mimosa B11 full-duplex ?

Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:49 pm

We are seeing 0-1ms latency average on a B5c link running the latest 1.3.0 beta. We also are beta testing a B11 link and seeing 1-2ms but we're not perfectly aligned yet. We are seeing excellent throughput 1 Gbps+ so far on a 4 mile link with 2 foot antennas.

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