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Re: Cable coming soon.

Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:42 pm

Container coming in week of January 8th

Another container coming in mid February

60 boxes/spools of cable is a full 48" x 40" x 48" pallet

Our web store really screws up shipping freight, it gives a really high number, we credit back the difference or we can ship on your UPS freight account just provide UPS account number in the comments section at check out but we get good rates from UPS freight the website just simply does not display it correctly.
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Re: Cable coming soon.

Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:48 pm

Hey all,
I don't even know where exactly to post this, but Ive just made an alarming discovery at one of my tower sites. We installed WispCable single-jacket on the tower about a year ago and while I was out there today I discovered that several sections of the cable were cracked and the foil was exposed. Closer inspection relieved it had become brittle and cracked around several of the bend radiuses.. This is truly alarming as I have MILES of this cable deployed on towers and at customer prems. I'm literally sick to my stomach thinking about everywhere Ive deployed this and what I'm going to do if it fails in the same manner.
Anyone else had this experience?!?!

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Re: Cable coming soon.

Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:14 am

Sadly this is our second complaint. We had gotten a complaint a week ago and was hoping it was an isolated issue in an install in Texas installed on asphalt in extremely hot environment.
I have just taken it off the website for now, sadly I just got in another container.

If this is a real issue it will pretty much bankrupt RF Armor sadly, I am sick to my stomach.

I really worked hard with the factory in China and thought we had made sure they were providing us their best quality PVC jacket.

We had run it at my WISP for almost a year with no issues before we sold it .
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Re: Cable coming soon.

Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:19 am

So, can we assume the cable will no longer be available? Needed to order more and notice it was out of stock, then found this, so just wanted to check in and see if there is any further information.

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Re: Cable coming soon.

Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:29 am

jeffromart wrote:So, can we assume the cable will no longer be available? Needed to order more and notice it was out of stock, then found this, so just wanted to check in and see if there is any further information.


At this point I took it off the market. Even if it is only "some" bad spools how do I know what is good and what is bad? Sadly I just got in a new shipment right before the first report of failure.

I (RF Armor) is Pretty much screwed. I am going to do my best to save RF Armor but we are still paying for the last shipment that I can not sale.

If RF Armor is forced out of business into bankruptcy it will not effect Netonix as they are 2 separate companies, I am only a partner of Netonix whereas since my partner in RF Armor died it is just me.

Maybe I can sale the cable at huge loss to people with the understanding that they should not install outdoor. But for now it will just sit and stare me in the face every day.

I have been in great depression since this whole thing started.

So no, not selling any of the cable.

Sadly the cable fills over half the warehouse and where I set and work I look at pallets of over 1,500 spools every day.

People are mad at me and hate that as I did this to save WISPs a few dollars and I ended up costing them money. I only made about $10 per box of cable when sold to a Distributor so I did not do it to get rich and the way it looks it will consume about 2 years profit from RF Armor just for the cable in the warehouse I can not sell.

I am mad at factory in China but they will not refund anything or replace the cable and I do not have the money to even think about trying to go after them in China.

But I am more mad at myself for even ever doing it.
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Re: Cable coming soon.

Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:43 am

I feel very bad for you Chris, I know how hard you work and how much effort you put into this. :(

Supply chains in China are a joke. At every step, someone is trying to save a few pennies and undercutting the shop down the street. They know that they just need to deliver great product for a year or two, then they can start cost cutting.

At the same time, outer cable sheath has to cover some of the worst environment extremes. I grew up in Chicago, where even "un-special" wire insulation tended to last for years with no sign of age, same as with most rubber products in general. Then I moved to California. Everything plastic/rubber dies ... quickly! Door gaskets and electrical wiring in cars are the worst, even though they are generally shielded from direct sun exposure.

I think it's the humidity, or lack of it, that dries plastics out much more quickly. Most are based off of hydro-carbon solvents, but still, moisture in the air seems to keep those in place better.

Even though we use outdoor UV rated cable exclusively, we are still happy when we can engineer a solution that puts it inside conduit.

And of course, all of our AC Prism & AF APs still go inside RF Armor boxes.

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