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Airfiber X

Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:03 pm

I just check the spec and Airfiber X will use 24V 1A power. This will be a problem with current netonix switch since 24V is 0.5V. Would a adapter to convert 48V 0.5A to 24V 1A (same power in watts) be possible ?

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Re: Airfiber X

Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:17 pm

mike99 wrote:I just check the spec and Airfiber X will use 24V 1A power. This will be a problem with current netonix switch since 24V is 0.5V. Would a adapter to convert 48V 0.5A to 24V 1A (same power in watts) be possible ?


There are several people that have the airFIBER X and report that they are powering the airFIBER 5X with our current switch models just fine.

wistech wrote:Yes sir, one of my sites has a 12 port with a 5x on it. Works like a Damn champ. Have another X in the office powered by another netonix and have yet to have an issue with either.
Tony


Our current models do support 24V .5A constant draw and the people with the AF5X being powered by our switch are drawing about 10-15 watts

wistech wrote: 25dBm TX, 30 second screenshot, 5 Minute, 1 hour average current draw AF5X on WISP Switch screenshot.

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Now with that being said we are offering 24VH on our newer models such as the WS-12-250-AC, WS-12-250-DC, WS-6-MINI which will deliver 1.5A/36W at 24VH to cover any future radios anyone dreams up!

However if you look at the AVERAGE current draw over 1 hour it is 9+/- watts which is below the 12 watt poly fuses in all the current models STANDARD ports but remember the ports capable of 48VH support .75A/18W @ 24V
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Re: Airfiber X

Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:22 pm

24V at 0.5A = 12W

If peak are at 15W, could it be problematic for the netonix ? How the switch will react to this ? Give enough power for those peak or we could see a radio crash ?

Edit: If anybody have live test, I would like to know if those are stable on netonix. Thanks

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Re: Airfiber X

Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:37 pm

mike99 wrote:24V at 0.5A = 12W

If peak are at 15W, could it be problematic for the netonix ? How the switch will react to this ? Give enough power for those peak or we could see a radio crash ?

Edit: If anybody have live test, I would like to know if those are stable on netonix. Thanks


As I said wistech and several other are using them LIVE.

I am aware they are on the edge if the AF5X is plugged into a port that is not capable of 48VH so if you plan to deploy AF5X on the current models and you do not like to live on the edge then only plug them into ports that support 48VH as those ports are rated at 24V .75A.

If your switch will be located in a WARM environment then this may be an issue is you plug an AF5X in a port that does not support 48VH as the Poly Fuses we are using on those ports currently are rated at a "constant" draw of .5A or 12watts

The ports that support 48VH are rated at .75A per pair as those ports have heavier poly fuses which is how you get the 48VH @ 1.4A on 2 pair so at 24V on a single pair you get .75A so just put the AF5X into a port that is capable of 48VH but select 24V which provides .75A and your GOLDEN!!!!

If using AF5X on existing models put the AF5X in a port that supports 48VH but select 24V POE in the UI or CLI:
WS-24-400A ports 1-4 support 48VH @ 1.4A or 48V @ .75A or 24V @ .75A
WS-24-400B ports 1-2 support 48VH @ 1.4A or 48V @ .75A or 24V @ .75A
WS-12-250A ports 1-4 support 48VH @ 1.4A or 48V @ .75A or 24V @ .75A
WS-12-250B ports 1-2 support 48VH @ 1.4A or 48V @ .75A or 24V @ .75A

WS-8-250-AC - PRE-RELEASE (WHITE DECALS) ports 1-2 support 48VH @ 1.4A or 48V @ .75A or 24V @ .75A

WS-8-250-AC - PRODUCTION MODELS (NOT WHITE DECALS) which will be shipping in 10 days support 24V @ .75A on all 8 ports so any new WS-8-250-XX units purchased from now on support 24V or 48V @ .75A ON ALL PORTS and 48VH @ 1.5A on port 1-2

WS-6-MIN Support 24V .75A on all port and 24VH or 48VH 1.8A on port 2

WS-12-250-XX support 24V or 48V @ .75A on all 12 ports and 24VH & 48VH @ 1.8A on port 1-4 - WOOT!
The WS-12-250-XX will be shipping by end of April.

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Re: Airfiber X

Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:31 pm

I'm not worried about it at all. My 5X has been humming along with a 12 port Netonix for a while now with zip issue doing so. I could see on very long cable runs where this MIGHT be an issue, but surely not with my deployment.

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Re: Airfiber X

Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:07 pm

WisTech wrote:I'm not worried about it at all. My 5X has been humming along with a 12 port Netonix for a while now with zip issue doing so. I could see on very long cable runs where this MIGHT be an issue, but surely not with my deployment.

Tony what port # is the AF5X plugged into?
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Re: Airfiber X

Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:08 pm

Numero Uno buddy!

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Re: Airfiber X

Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:49 pm

WisTech wrote:Numero Uno buddy!


Yea, the 48VH capable ports on current model revisions have a .75A Poly fuse so when configured to deliver 24V they have an 18 watt capacity or if configured as 48V it has 24 watts, and of course at 48VH on all 4 pairs it can deliver 1.5A as it spreads the current across multiple pairs and poly fuses.

If you plugged the AF5X into a port not capable of 48VH then the poly fuse is only rated at .5A which would be 12 watts which is probably OK under most circumstances but if the cable run is really long and the switch is in a HOT environment it may trip the Poly Fuse and you would notice the unit either reboot or go off line and stay off line until you go into the UI and turn off POE and then turn it back on. Most likely it would just reboot.

Hey Tony can you email me a 1 hour graph of the AF5X power consumption along with the 1 hour data throughput graph?
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Re: Airfiber X

Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:07 pm

sirhc wrote:
WisTech wrote:Numero Uno buddy!


Hey Tony can you email me a 1 hour graph of the AF5X power consumption along with the 1 hour data throughput graph?


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